Monday, August 30, 2010

Mondays With Mike: Murder in the Vatican?

SINCE MY FIRST book involved the murder of a nun, I could not resist interviewing the author of a book with the intriguing title of Murder in the Vatican: The Church Mysteries of Sherlock Holmes. Of course finding Ann Lewis wasn’t hard; she is the president of the Catholic Writers Guild, an international organization for Catholic Writers. Ann began her writing career writing tie-in children’s books and short stories for DC Comics. Most recently she published a second edition of her book, Star Wars: The New Essential Guide to Alien Species, for Random House. In addition to her latest book Murder in the Vatican: The Church Mysteries of Sherlock Holmes, she is also co-writing a historical novel entitled Roman which tells the true story of a priest in 1840s southern Indiana who was accused of assaulting a woman in a confessional

A classically trained soprano, Ann has performed around the New York City area. She has many interests from music to art history, to theology and all forms of literature. After living in New York City for fifteen years, Ann moved to Indianapolis, Indiana with her husband Joseph and their son, Raymond. Together they enjoy their life in the heartland.

Mike: Okay, Ann, the first thing I want to know is about Murder in the Vatican. What is going on and how did Sherlock Holmes get involved with the pope?

Ann: Sherlock Holmes’ first encounter with the pope, which was mentioned in Hound of the Baskervilles, occurs when Queen Victoria dispatches him to locate a set of precious 1st Century cameos that the pope was sending as a gift to the British people (with political implications). When the courier arrived to present the gift to the Queen – the case was empty! Naturally Her Highness sends Sherlock to hunt them down because he has solved sensitive cases for her before, as well as many crowned heads of Europe. (All of this is told in the second story of the book, “The Vatican Cameos.”). All three of the stories in this book are based on cases that Watson mentions in the original stories but never tells us. These cases are called “the untold tales” in Sherlock Holmes fandom. I took three of the titles, all having to do with the Church, and told the stories for them.

M: This is an interesting concept, the pope and Holmes. How did it come about and is the style patterned after any other similar concept?

A: This type of “pastiche”—writing Holmes stories in imitation of Doyle’s style—has been done by many authors. I’m in such company as Nicholas Meyer, Isaac Asimov and even Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s own son Adrian. But as far as I know, none have tackled all three of the church mysteries mentioned in the original stories and collected them together.

M: While you are using a fictional character, Holmes, the pope presented, Leo XIII was a real person. How did you go about providing a “voice” for a real person in a fictional setting?

A: To capture Leo’s voice, I dove into his writing—encyclicals mainly—and I went crazy finding as many sources on him as I could. I went out of my way to find primary source material or period sources. I managed to find a great article from a magazine called The Century dated February of 1896. I found another terrific article online done by a contemporary journalist named James Creelman who personally met and interviewed Papa Leo—the first journalist ever to interview a pope. Both of these gave me great insights into his character. I also read a period biography (written by a priest mentioned in one of my stories, by the way). Using works from that time helped me get into the proper frame of mind for the character.

M: What was hardest about writing Murder in the Vatican: The Church Mysteries of Sherlock Holmes?

A: Avoiding anachronism was certainly up there, but I think the hardest part was imitating Doyle’s voice. While I was more familiar with Doyle’s language over Pope Leo’s, his voice is more recognizable and I know I have folks who will pick it apart. Pope Leo, not so much. I was imitating Pope Leo’s voice as translated into English, so there was bound to be some leeway. With Doyle, even you have his music or you don’t, and the pastiche will sink or swim depending on how well you pull his voice off. That did intimidate me.

M: How did you feel about fictionalizing Pope Leo XIII?

A: Nervous. I wanted to be accurate and do him justice. I asked his intercession, actually, and said, “Holy Father, I’m trying to be flattering, do what you can to help me out.” And I think he did. I made him, perhaps, a little more active than he actually was (he was, after all, pretty old at the time the stories take place). But it’s not like he’s doing Jackie Chan moves or anything. Even so, I thought I should be wearing a veil as I worked so I could be respectful of him.

M: How did you learn to imitate Watson's "voice"?

A: By reading and re-reading the Doyle’s own stories – listening to the music of Doyle’s words in my head. I am a musician, so I hear music in words and I try to play it back. I realize that it isn’t going to be perfect, of course. I’m a Midwestern Mommie, not a Victorian British gentleman. I’m sure some native Brits will find errors in what I’ve written. But I hope they look at what I’ve done and hear the music even if the interpretation of the piece is a little different.

M: How did you learn about the era?

A: I started online, of course. It began with generic Google searches, which lead me to the library to dig out history books on various subjects. I also got involved on various online mailing lists and asked a lot of questions. They directed me to sources I never thought I’d find. I also learned that I can always go “right to the source.” For instance, I wrote to a hospital in Britain to ask them what was happening in their hospital during a certain time period, and they actually Xeroxed documents to send them to me with their compliments. It was very edifying to know that people like to be asked about topics they find interesting – and they will talk to you forever and dump all sorts of resources on you if you let them. Ask and you shall receive…

M: What your favorite story of the three stories in the book?

A: My favorite is “The Vatican Cameos.” I loved it because I did something very different with using the pope as narrator. It isn’t often that folks get to hear what goes on the head of a pope. I hope readers come to love him as I did. I also enjoyed the friendship that develops between Pope Leo and Holmes. They really do have a lot more in common than not, and I had fun with that. It also is one of those stories where the characters just took over and told the story for me. I loved writing that story and I was actually sad when I finished it.

M: Are you planning more Holmes stories?

A: I have written one more whole novel (working title: The Watson Chronicles) and I’ve planned for one more after that. Sadly The Watson Chronicles is way too long — I have to cut and revise. It is a story about Dr. Watson’s life, really, rather than a straight out mystery (though it has mysteries in it), so it may be a tough sell.

M: Are you a big Holmes fan, then?

A: Ya think? ;)

M: Do you think the setting, i.e. the Vatican and the pope, will limit the marketing of your book? And, considering the Catholic tie-in, are you doing anything special to promote it?

A: The secular world sees the Vatican as a mystery. It’s one of the reasons I think DaVinci Code was so popular. There’s something exotic about the Church that draws the secular, despite its best attempts to shun it. Is it any wonder that the best horror stories involve Church symbolism? For that reason, I think the book has cross-sell possibilities.

For that reason I am marketing to both the Catholic and secular markets. There is a dearth of fun Catholic fiction out there, and I think my book is getting noticed in Catholic circles because of it. I went out of my way to submit it for the Catholic Writers Guild Seal of Approval so Catholic book stores can feel confident stocking it.

In the secular world—the publisher and I are promoting it among Sherlock Holmes fans, who have been quite positive about it because while some of them might sniff at a pastiche, these are folk who do like a good story. And so far, I’ve received nothing but positive feedback from Sherlockians on the story-telling. This tells me that the Catholic settings and characters are not turning them away. The goal, again, was to tell a good story, and I think everyone can appreciate that.

M: Do you feel that being Catholic helped you write Murder in the Vatican: The Church Mysteries of Sherlock Holmes?

A: It certainly gave me some perspective and a body of knowledge other people wouldn’t have. I still had to do research on the church of the time, of course. I began attending a diocesan-approved Mass in the Extraordinary Form (i.e. the Traditional Latin Mass) so I could learn about the Mass that Pope Leo said. I began to realize how connected I am to the Church of history—that it was and is my family—then and now. I began to really understand the Holy Father Pope Leo. He is my father and my brother in Christ, and we both have Catholic minds. We truly do share that common heritage. And I was eager to share the church as it truly was and is as opposed to what Dan Brown would have you believe.

M: Do you make Holmes and Watson Catholic?

A: No, not at all. Though other authors have made Holmes everything from Jewish to Unitarian to Evangelical to Buddhist. To me, the most logical spiritual leaning for both main characters is “lapsed, questioning Anglican”—or perhaps in Watson’s case, “lapsed, questioning Scottish Calvinist.” I thought the interplay between a questioner and the leader of the Catholic faith was a good one—it gave the book a more neutral perspective that non-Catholics would find easier to read.

M: What is your favorite Holmes mystery from the original Holmes stories?

A: I love Hound of the Baskervilles – probably because it is the first one I read. And I also like the short stories “A Scandal in Bohemia” and “The Yellow Face”—perhaps because Holmes’ pride is taken down a peg in both of them. One thing Doyle did not do often is cause his characters to suffer or change. Those two stories are the closest he came to doing that.

M: What did you think of the Sherlock Holmes movie?

A: It wasn’t Sherlock Holmes as Doyle was originally intended, that’s for certain. It was popcorn action flick. I enjoyed it because I knew it wasn’t Holmes. I wanted to strangle Robert Downey Jr.’s costumer (RDJ was grungy to distraction!). But if it prompts kids to read the original books, I’d say it has served a good purpose by being made.

M: What else are you planning to write?

A: I hope to write some historical fiction soon. Right now I’m starting to rewrite, by request, a historical novel entitled Roman which tells the true story of a priest in 1840s southern Indiana who was accused of assaulting a woman in a confessional. He was convicted by a Protestant jury and sent away to prison for several years. I can hardly wait to dive into that.

M: Tell me about your Star Wars Book.

A: I wrote The Star Wars Essential Guide to Alien Species in 2001 for Del Rey Books (part of Random House) as well as its second edition, The New Essential Guide to Alien Species (2007). It was the first big book I ever published. It was a lucky break for me and it was a lot of fun to do. I was given the opportunity because I was familiar with the universe, but also because I had experience working with licensed properties. My second job out of college was working at DC Comics in their Licensed Publishing Department, so I had learned how characters that belong to someone else are treated at a corporate level. That was a must for Star Wars. Though with the second edition of the Essential Guide to Alien Species, I had to draft a friend of mine Helen Keier to co-write it with me because I’d given birth to my son in the interim and I’d not been able to keep up with what as was happening in the Star Wars universe. She was a huge, huge help. I believe both editions are still available on Amazon.

M: You are president of the Catholic Writers Guild. What is it all about?

A: The Catholic Writers Guild was formed as a means of supporting Catholic authors, to help them get published and compete in the world of ideas. Our goal is a rebirth of Catholic arts and letters. We encourage their writing through conferences, critique groups, online forums and chats, and (hopefully!) writers retreats. We have about 150 members. Folks can learn more at

M: Does the organization proselytize or is it just a group of like-minded authors? In that vein, do members all write religious books, or do you cover a variety of genres?

A: CWG is really a group of like-minded authors, publishers and such who want to help build a vibrant Catholic literary culture. Our members write every form of book you can think of, from children’s books, to SciFi/fantasy, to mystery, to religious devotionals and even comics. We also have journalists and illustrators. Our goal is to encourage our fellow faithful Catholic writers and artists to get out there and compete.

M: I know you sponsor a writers’ conference. Can you tell us something about it and how someone might attend?

A: We sponsor two conferences, one online and one live. Our live one happens usually every August in conjunction with the Catholic Marketing Network Trade Show. Our online conference is free, and that occurs each spring. Our next online conference will take place March 21-27, 2010. We get a lot of great speakers online, useful information—all free. We even have opportunities to pitch publishers (both secular and Catholic). You can find out about all our conferences by visiting

M: Where can someone buy your book?

A: It’s going to take a bit of time for my book to show up on Amazon, so the best place is through the publisher’s web site:

M: How can readers contact you?

A: You can reach me by emailing me through my web site:

M: Thank you, Ann for taking time out of your day to be with us.

A: It was a joy. Thank you!

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BTW, Ann’s Star Wars books can be found here: first edition; second edition. As usual, comments are welcome.


  1. Great interview. Ann, your research sounds fascinating. Very impressive. I wish you all best and great success with these. God bless,

  2. Ann, your book is fabulous and I really need to write a review for (or did you do that already, Mike?) and The New York Journal of Books (I'm one of their regular mystery reviewers). Best wishes with 'Watson Chronicles'.

  3. Great Interview!

    I have the honor of being Ann's writing buddy, and I can tell you, she did a lot of research and thinking when she wrote both "Murder in the Vatican" and "Watson Chronicles." I'm praying she gets WC published soon. I know people will love it.

  4. Quick - is that next online conference in 2011? Was that a typo?

    WONDERFUL interview - I'm waiting for word from my local bookstore that my copy of Murder in the Vatican has arrived - I've read two of the stories in draft, as well as part of the Watson Chronicles, and I am eager to see where the rest of the story takes us.

  5. Yes, the conference is 2011. Sorry about that, Laura!

  6. For anyone who likes a good book related to the Vatican and the catholic Church try On This Rock by Dave Leonard